Sarita Buer (00:00)
Hello and welcome back to Back to Here with Sarita, the new Manifesting Paradigm podcast. I've got Amanda here that I'm really excited to talk to about some very interesting, integral things around health and wealth, money and all the things. So Amanda, thank you so much for being here with me today.
Amanda Hinman (00:19)
Thank you, Sarita. Happy to have this conversation, because I'm so passionate about how our health and wealth are linked.
And really, when you elevate one, the other follows.
Sarita Buer (00:29)
I love that. And we're gonna get a lot more deeper into that in this podcast episode, because I'm sure that'll be a big thing for a lot of people where it's new to them, this whole interconnection. But before we do all that, I would love to find out from you, and so can share this with my audience as well, and your own story and your own words. What has led you to doing the work that you do? Because I know you do a lot where you work with women.
Amanda Hinman (00:42)
Mm-hmm.
Sarita Buer (00:58)
and their hormones and I love that because that's such a portion. I'm in that age where it's like starting to be important to me because before it wasn't. And so would love to find out from you like what's your story in getting to where you are now and like how do you help people specifically?
Amanda Hinman (01:18)
Yes, happy to share, Sarita. So thank you. As you mentioned, I am a women's hormone expert, so I specialize in helping women typically between the ages of 40 and 60 in my thyroid and hormone solution program. So it's really looking at the root cause of
elevating your health, improving energy, increasing your metabolism, giving you clarity, you know, get rid of the brain fog, get rid of the insomnia so that you can be at your best and really feeling fantastic in your body.
And I think, I honestly think that this was like a divine redirection that landed me here in this
I'd always been somebody who was interested in health and fitness.
Back in my college years, I was a collegiate athlete and I just enjoyed
exercising and I used to teach group fitness classes way back when, when I had
health in my earlier twenties, I defined health as eating salads and smoothies and
sweating for 60 minutes plus in the gym, right? If I did those things,
I quote unquote thought I had a
healthy way of living.
And then when I was in my early 30s and pregnant with my fourth daughter,
was diagnosed with an autoimmune condition called Hashimoto's
And at first I
absolutely like
in denial. I
angry and I was like, what do you mean? How can I have this?
disease that I'll have to take medication or I was told I would take medication for the rest of my
once you have one autoimmune dynamic, you're at a much higher risk for
diagnoses down the
nevermind the fact that I was massively struggling with insomnia, I had hair loss, I was constantly like jittery and cold and couldn't sit still. My mind was racing. I definitely had like skin irritations and eczema. So I had a whole bunch of symptoms,
I kind of
ignored it or poo-pooed it and said, I'm just from pregnancy and having young kids, I'm not getting good sleep. So I kind
minimized
once I had the Hashimoto's Diagnosis, started working with a naturopathic doctor and dove right in, like, I'm going to fix this, I'm going to solve
and spent
on a whole bunch of expensive
was given a list
15 different supplements to start taking and foods to eliminate.
and
started to do that work, then felt really resentful and felt like I was missing, like it felt like my health was such a laborious thing to keep up with. It didn't feel sustainable.
And about 18 months after my diagnosis, my oldest daughter, who was eight years old at that
had always been anxious. She'd always been like a highly sensitive little girl.
And her anxiety increased to the fact where she was having 10 to 15 different
a day.
Sarita, when I tell you
Sarita Buer (03:54)
So sorry.
Amanda Hinman (03:57)
that is as a parent, to go through, was one thing for me to have
inconvenient symptoms for my health. But when I saw my daughter and there were many instances where I thought she may not survive
escalated the urgency to a whole nother level. And similar to my situation where I was told, these things are genetic,
sometimes they just happen.
When we went and had all the tests run for her seizures, the pediatric neurologist said, you know, again, there's no tumor,
there's no brain damage. These things can be genetic and she will likely be on medication. She was taking four different benzodiazepines or 12 pills a day just to make it through a 24 hour period without having another seizure. We were told she would never be able to drive a car, so on and so
Sarita Buer (04:37)
Wow.
Amanda Hinman (04:40)
every fiber in my
to myself like
cannot be the whole story. This can't be, yeah, there has to be more that we just don't, we don't understand. Like what caught, how did this just come up out of the blue, right? Or at least what I thought was out of the blue. So that's when I went back to school
Sarita Buer (04:45)
Something's gotta give.
Amanda Hinman (04:56)
to study functional medicine and functional medicine science is really looking at how the interconnected systems, our immune system, our digestive system, our
endocrine hormone system, you know, our neurology, how everything works together
this unique individual.
to find the blockage, the impairment or the depletion and how can we rebuild health? How can we bring the body back into
And so that journey of learning really opened up a whole new host of even a different approach to how
to nourish our bodies and how to balance the nervous system. So then that was really invigorating, it was inspiring. And that's when, you know, working together with my daughter and myself, we...
did a 180. Like she weaned off of all of her medication, has been seizure free ever since, she's now a sophomore
on a full ride scholarship in college. I've been medication free for over 15 years. So
it really was empowering. And that's what inspired me to understand like more women. And I know specifically in the 40 to 60 years of age is when so many different symptoms tend to exasperate because we lose that buffer when our sex hormones start to wind down as women.
I want more women to understand that there are practical,
sustainable
tools and strategies and things that they can learn about to support their body and to rebuild health and to feel absolutely
So it's rewriting the narrative of,
you know, this is a foregone conclusion. As you age, you're going to start to feel like
bloated and achy and have
No, no, no, no, no. That's, that doesn't have to be the norm.
that's really what led me on this path.
Sarita Buer (06:29)
my gosh, what a testament. I love that. What a triumph story that is. And also
very reassuring to know that there is not only information out there, because we are in the information age, but also being able to implement certain things into your life that are going to be supportive and helpful to integrate. And then also to
transcend, know, and move beyond that and work with the things that have been maybe a belief for a while that you like think like it has to be this way. It has to be this way. I know off the top of my head three people that are that have been diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease and who are dealing with some very intense results of autoimmune deficiencies and the struggle.
My sister, for example, is one of those people. And I know her health has been such a challenge for her. And again, there's not a lack of information. It is also just finding out what works for you and then finding support that's going to be helpful to you long-term. So I love that. That is such an amazing story. I relate to that not with the autoimmune impact, but more along the lines of my wellness and health and well-being.
Amanda Hinman (07:35)
Yeah.
Sarita Buer (07:49)
you started off by saying like, you know, this thought process in the twenties, like this is, you know, salads and smoothies and maybe doing like a yoga class a week is sufficient enough. And maybe at that time, because, you know, my responsibilities at that time were less. But realizing now as a more evolved person, and this is a part that I can't wait to get into because you lightly touched upon this at the very end, is the,
not only the health and wellbeing portion of the impact of who you are as a person, but also the more deeper level things. So I know that's something for you that you've worked with your clients and you do work with your clients. And you were mentioning that when we first connected, because I really wanna shine a light on this aspect. And I know there are people that do believe this and I know there are people that are already.
encompassing this as part of their strategy to life and their wellness and health and wellbeing, that it isn't just the things that you put in your body and you eat and you like actively physically do. And that's where I love like your holistic approach, which you've been sharing with me, that I would love for you to share a little bit more about that. And that'll definitely segue into what we're going to be talking about, which is like this health wellness equation, right? And like the, that, that
Amanda Hinman (09:13)
Yeah.
Sarita Buer (09:13)
But the people that you work with, the women that you work with, you were saying,
they do come to you with this perception, this manifestation of a physical symptom or these problems that they have. And yet, that's what they're focused on and that's what they think is the thing, the problem, right? When in reality, as you know, cause you've been studying this and like you're much, you're a lot into like mindset and things like that.
it's oftentimes a much deeper seated thing. So I'd love for you to go into that how, where we think it's like this surface level thing and yes, that's an impactor and going to impact us, but yet it's something like, ends up being deeper. So yes, love for you to share.
Amanda Hinman (09:58)
yes, definitely. Well, and it's so beautiful that you said that. So Sarita, one of the very first things that we look at when it comes to, like I have a five step process that we use. Same thing that I wrote about in my thyroid hormone solution book.
number one is identify the root cause. So we start at a surface level looking at, know, are we, you know, for example,
I'm thinking of a woman, Sharon, that I worked with. She's like, I have varicose veins. I have really low energy in the morning. I have...
you know, skin, my skin is itchy often and some unrelated symptoms, salt cravings, plus bloating. And it was really all these signs were pointing to low cortisol. And she was like, wow, interesting. Cause I would have thought I had a lot of stress in my life. And I said, well, sometimes we can have stress for a period of times, but our cortisol levels become depleted. We don't have
bra materials to be able to synthesize hormones and so forth.
So that was just like, that's like the top of the...
the piece of the puzzle, like you said, the hormone cortisol, right? And kind of getting a symptom pointing in that direction.
And so, and by the way, if your audience is interested, I'm happy to share my free hormone health assessment, which is how Sharon was able to identify, put the varicose veins and the salt cravings and the different things together, kind of map those symptoms.
Sarita Buer (11:06)
Love that.
Amanda Hinman (11:11)
But really we were talking about, what is, let's look at what are the primary drivers
cause stress in your life. And for her, again, very common, but she had a high demanding career, like very, you know, very
thoughtful and the team that she leads and the projects that she takes on and where she's going.
chronic perception of, don't have enough time. There's not like, I don't have the bandwidth to do the things that I'm wanting or expecting to have done in my life. And so it took a lot of, we, and then,
Later on, we talk about replenishing nutrients, getting that good digestive health and microbiome. But another part of the process is step four is rewiring the brain. Neuroscience, I think, is an absolutely essential piece of sustainable health improvement. And if we are just focused on the food and the exercise, but we're not looking at and asking the questions of what are the thoughts, what are the beliefs, what are the perspectives that you've had maybe for decades.
around lack of time, too much on my plate, too much responsibility, or so on and so forth that's going to chronically put the body into a sympathetic fight or flight response,
that even if you're choosing these healthy nourishing foods and making really intentional meals, your body in a fight or flight response won't be able to digest those foods and absorb them adequately. So it's not really doing the full effect that
You are intending, right? So we get to look at those deeper layers of saying, like, where is this belief of not enough
Sarita Buer (12:41)
Yeah.
Amanda Hinman (12:46)
or I'm not good enough. And it usually comes down to self-worth. So much of the work that we do is really having the space
Sarita Buer (12:50)
Definitely.
Amanda Hinman (12:54)
look at those harder questions and then start to practice and play with, what would it look like if I just shifted even? And again, a lot of times it's like, let's do a two week trial.
Let's do a two week trial of you're going to allow yourself the gift of starting your morning for the first 30 minutes are dedicated solely to your self care. Instead of waking up rushing into the day, checking an email, getting in top of your team projects or communication. The first 30 minutes are dedicated to you. Maybe spending five minutes to do some breath work, 10 minutes to journal and really kind of process and see where you are with your emotions and where your intention is for the day.
It's amazing how powerful these deeper strategy, I'm talking deeper, but these like self-care strategies are for bringing to the surface the underlying limiting beliefs that are running the body on that fight or flight response chronically, right? And if we don't expose them and then create new patterns of thought, new opportunities to practice and.
Sarita Buer (13:50)
Mm-hmm. Mm. Yeah.
Amanda Hinman (13:59)
really neuroplasticity where I teach a lot of the science. it's not, you know, airy-fairy. It's like, no, there's real data to show that when we put these things into practice and when we have certain tools, you literally can reorient how you perceive your world and what's possible.
Sarita Buer (14:19)
That's so real. The time manifestation, I just relate to that so heavily. The time manifestation where it's like, don't have enough time, I always have to be on the go, have to be, and that's such an impactor. I know for me personally, and that just hits home so heavily, your client that you were talking about. And for me personally, where I was struggling in my mid to late 30s was...
this perception that I had to give my time and energy to everybody else and there wasn't enough time for myself. And when I did give time to myself, it was like the last resort. I was literally falling apart. It was like this band-aid approach that I was doing. So it wasn't like proactive. So that was like my transition. My big epiphany was like, my god, Sarita, need to, or you get to opportunity, you get to look at your health and well-being as a proactive.
Amanda Hinman (14:56)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Sarita Buer (15:11)
So you can show up in these other areas of your life with not only intention, but like a level of energy. And it's so true. Like I have to speak from my own experience that I have been in the past, but I've considered a healthy eater. I have a big sweet tooth and that's like definitely gotten a lot under control recently. But like I realized, like you were saying how...
Amanda Hinman (15:19)
Mm-hmm.
Sarita Buer (15:35)
even with the things we put in our body, like it's not going to be able to digest and give us the replenishing energy source that is meant to help and support us if we're not doing the deeper level intentional work. And like, I want to relate this as well to even not just what we consume, like, you know, food wise, but like what we consume if we're, you know, doom scrolling or watching like TV and things like that. It's like,
Amanda Hinman (15:44)
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Sarita Buer (16:03)
these certain aspects, these certain energies, these certain things that we're putting into our system, that we're taking in in our system are going to impact us. You said something so profound and so basic and so true is like neuroscience, the deeper level of neuroplasticity is like the biggest impact for health and wellbeing. And that is so true. And I know that from personal experience. And so I love
Amanda Hinman (16:13)
Mm-hmm.
It is.
Sarita Buer (16:33)
This is where me and you vibe, like we definitely the well-being, like the bigger picture and also the deeper level work, is the neural science behind things. I bring a lot of that to my manifestation work. I love the woo woo. And that's how a lot of people get formally introduced often through the law of assumption, law of.
Amanda Hinman (16:35)
Mm-hmm.
Sarita Buer (16:57)
attraction, like all that stuff through like a very spiritual lens. And so my approach definitely has that component, but also really the science based parts of that. So I love that you are integrating that because I'm sure as well, people are coming to you for these like surface level manifestations, right? And that's oftentimes what we think is the problem when in reality, I love that you were helping your client in realizing that she's worthy of
Amanda Hinman (17:16)
Yeah.
Sarita Buer (17:26)
putting time and effort and energy towards herself. So that is so, so important.
Amanda Hinman (17:32)
And it's really
rewarding that kind of actually leads us into this whole health and wealth connection. Go ahead, I'll let you take that.
Sarita Buer (17:37)
Yes. I was just going to ask you about that. Yes.
Love that. So yes, this segues so beautifully into the meat and potatoes of this episode, which is the health and wealth as you call it equation. So this interconnection of your health and your wealth. so before we jump into like the actual equation and the, and the, the, how it's correlated and the perception of it.
I want you to, in your own personal experience and working with clients, because people have a lot of story around wealth and a lot of story around health. health looks like this, what I see on TV, and wealth looks like this that I see on Instagram or TV or movies. So I would love for you just in general just to maybe take out the story of that and just
basically share what health and wealth is first, and then we'll go into the actual interconnection.
Amanda Hinman (18:43)
Yeah. So, so health, and I'm just going to speak from my personal experience, right? So, so health to me looks like I have the capacity to show up with energy, with focus, with
Sarita Buer (18:48)
Yes, please.
Amanda Hinman (18:57)
curiosity and enjoyment routinely in my life. Now it's never going to be a steady state. There's always ebbs and flows and days where you're a little bit lower and days where you're really energized and on fire.
Yet it's this.
rebound and this this ability to quickly
know if you have a day where it's kind of lower even here today in Chicago, it's a rainy day It's been pouring all day. It's kind of gloomy outside. It's like, okay sometimes those are days to be a little bit more low-key and a little bit more internal and that's great and it's very quick to Know to really be empowered and to know what does my body need and how does it work? Well in terms of fueling my my food
in terms of, like you said, what is that self-care routine and practice with my mental space, with carving out a little bit of quiet de-stimulation, know, time where it's like, OK, it can be really grounded and centered, and also have the movement pattern. So it's a kind of a combination of what are the secret sauce
that allow that consistency of energy, of metabolism and of vitality to be readily accessible.
available. That's what health looks like and it's different for everyone. I don't think there's a cookie cutter plan. I believe in becoming intimately connected with your body and intimately aware of what works for you.
That's why again it's a collaboration when I work with clients not like here's the process, here's what you eat, here's how you exercise. It's really this back and forth
collaboration and experiment so that you now know you're in the driver's seat. You now know what works really well and at different seasons of your life.
For some women when they're in entrepreneurial sprint and they're really in building mode, that's gonna look different than when they're getting ready to have a child go off to college and they wanna be more present and more at home or be able to travel and go see their child at different events. So they know that their routine is gonna look different, right? So it's really customized for what does that look like for the individual. For me, it's like when I know that I have the capacity to consistently be present, show up with energy, be eager for the day, be in a place of curiosity rather than judgment.
That is what health looks like. Now when we talk about wealth, So wealth, obviously the most common place that people tend to think is a financial number. Like is it an income number? Is it an asset number that you have in the bank? What does that look like financially? And yes, wealth from a financial perspective is an important part of the equation and it's definitely a force that we all have our own relationship with. I like to
Sarita Buer (21:09)
that wealth.
Amanda Hinman (21:34)
that because wealth in terms of wealth of relationships wealth of the quality connections that you have in your Friendships and your family and your you know inner circle of people wealth of opportunities You know, how are you somebody who's connected with the invitations or the opportunities to? If you want to go travel and have this new adventure and this new experience or to speak on different stages or to you know be and create an intimate like
Sarita Buer (21:49)
Hmm.
Amanda Hinman (22:04)
You know, I don't know, craft experience with some of your closest friends that will be unique and memorable. What are those wealth of opportunities in addition to wealth of, you know, just life experience? It's like, it's like how you want to define wealth. So think it's important for us to first expand the definition of wealth as opposed to just looking in the financial lane. And when you have that sense of deeper inner knowing about what we're talking about, the health piece, like, you know,
what makes you click, you know, where you prioritize your life and how you live in a place of vitality, consistent energy, resourcefulness, curiosity and eagerness. That's only going to naturally translate into these other areas of financial opportunities, of relationships, of new experiences and adventure. You know what I mean? They kind of go hand in hand, but I do like to expand that definition of wealth for many of us because
Sarita Buer (23:03)
Yes. I love that. Yes. And that's why I asked you in your own words to define, you know, what health is for you and what wealth is. And I love that because we get to define what that is for us. And like for me, like very similar health is vitality, wellness, and being able to have my best foot forward, have the energetic capacity to give to the things that are really aligned with
Amanda Hinman (23:03)
It's a critical part.
Sarita Buer (23:33)
me and what I really love. And well, very similar to you as well, is abundance. Having those abundant opportunities, having abundant experiences, having an abundant bank account and all that stuff. So very important for the listener to define what those things are. And now we get to segue into how are these two inter-correlated? So what is this connection that you've seen from your own personal experience?
when it comes to amplifying your health and how that's shed light and been able to amplify areas of wealth in your life. And then also, too, your clients as well.
Amanda Hinman (24:15)
Well, in my personal experience, very, very straight correlation of when I had this health, like I said, this health transformation process for myself and my family,
completely energized me for this work. I mean, it it was, launched my business, which now is providing great financial, you know, return as I continue to serve and to support hundreds of women every year. It's this opportunity to
Honestly, it wasn't even a dirt. Well, actually, I shouldn't say that early on. I remember when I was in high school, my one of the sounds kind of silly looking back and I remember thinking like, when I'm older, I want to have children because my mom was a stay at home mom. want to have kids and I want to be a fitness instructor. So I always knew I want to do something kind of related to health. But really, let's be honest, the earning potential to be a fitness instructor is not that high. You know, like you get paid, you know, you know.
Sarita Buer (25:06)
Yeah.
Amanda Hinman (25:08)
30, $40 a class that you teach. How many classes are you teaching a week? Right? So I hadn't been oriented or wasn't thinking even in the realm of being able
Sarita Buer (25:11)
Right, yeah.
Amanda Hinman (25:17)
combine my passion for health and wellness with income potential with, you know, that as an opportunity until obviously going through this experience. so that is a direct correlation. And I will say for my clients, like I'm a woman, Shannon, I working with. So when she invested in her health and really we did the inner work of allowing her to
set some loving boundaries with her team, really prioritize her action steps and how she's setting up her daily calendar to support her health.
Sarita Buer (25:43)
you
Amanda Hinman (25:46)
Her business doubled their income in Q1 this year. So she's like, I was astounded, but it forced her to lead in a different way. It's interesting how sometimes that forced efficiency, like when we're carving out part of the pie to...
Sarita Buer (25:51)
I have.
Amanda Hinman (26:03)
Utilize time for self-care and different wellness routines then that means time that was spent maybe in other areas is condensed and come and You know, it's shortened. So it forces innovation and it forces efficiency So she's like our team meetings got so much more effective. That means the whole Return for our clients was more effective. So it's interesting to see how that actually forced innovation improved the bottom line in her business, right
Sarita Buer (26:18)
Yeah.
Amanda Hinman (26:32)
That's just one example. Another client, Mariam, she actually had a scenario. She had a different scenario where her health, when she really got to the place of like, you know what? I've had this scare with a lump in my breast and I'm going to get some help. I want to understand what's going on hormonally in my body. I want to understand why my, she, we discovered she had estrogen dominance and her body was not processing estrogen effectively. Got her support, really set her on the path to change that whole dynamic and her body was able to save $5,000 and cancel.
Lumbectomy surgery so hers it was like a health savings like a financial savings because of again investing in knowing her body understanding what it needs respecting the signals that her body was sick was was showing her and then changing her daily habits and her routines that quite literally resulted in savings of not only the financial savings but
Sarita Buer (27:04)
Wow.
Amanda Hinman (27:28)
the peace of mind and that experience of going through a painful surgery and recovery and all of that stuff, right? Those are just some of the pieces. And then I'm of another client, Susie, who from her perspective, it was a massive change in her relationship. So she had struggled with some dynamics with her in like her extended family, internal dynamics and so forth. And part of the things that we explored is sources of stress. What were the things that were really allowing her body to be in this fight or flight response and feel?
a lot of anger and resentment do that neuroscience work to recognize new patterns, release some of those old, you know, perceptions and judgments that she had and just accept like, let kind of like the Mel Robbins, let them, let them let people be who they're going to be. It doesn't necessarily have to harm or impact you. Let them be who they're going to be. And that opened up taking family vacations together that for years they were, refuted, their family refused to do it.
So talking about memories for her kids with their cousins, because now the wealth of relationships was expanded, right? So it translates into so many different areas. But I do think because especially as women in this season of life, when we're having those flares, like the body's giving us cues and clues because symptoms are speaking to us, that oftentimes is an invitation. If we're willing to get curious and willing to say, huh, like how are these symptoms?
Sarita Buer (28:46)
Mm.
Amanda Hinman (28:55)
here to teach me something? How are they here to help serve me? So that you can then dive in and learn and become more intimately connected to your own body and your own thought process, which when you shifted around a little bit can have some beautiful blessings on the other side.
Sarita Buer (29:14)
Yes, I can. You use two words that are really sticking with me, prioritize and invest. And both those things, are oftentimes socialized as women to not do those two things for ourselves, right? Like we are prioritizing and investing in other things, other people, our significant other, our children, our family, our job, our career.
our business, all these other aspects, which are extensions of us, right? They are these, if you think of like an octopus, like they're extensions of who we are as a person. They don't define us. And oftentimes we forget, and I'm speaking from major experience here, that investing in our own time and energy is actually going to be the key, because that's what you're saying with every single.
person that you have shared with us as their transformation has been those two things, the investment of time and energy into themselves and prioritizing, right? Those things. And so I'm just thinking kind of for the person that may be listening, and also I was this person, and I'm sure you were this person as well, where you're in the midst of...
Amanda Hinman (30:25)
Mm-hmm.
Sarita Buer (30:39)
the frustration of maybe your health or the myths of the frustration of the lack of opportunities or the lack of abundance or the lack of the health. it's like, that's really the thing that you're primarily focusing on. As we know, both of us, we understand what you focus on expands, right? And so for someone who is in the midst of their own like gunk and frustration, because I was there and like I told you, I was like experiencing it, whereas like,
Amanda Hinman (30:59)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Sarita Buer (31:09)
I'm just going to put a bandaid on this and hope that it stays together on this like sieve that's literally leaking like all these different parts of my life. For you, like when you get a client that you're so in the midst of their own or even somebody that's listening, it's just like, how do you even begin to unpack? do you even like, what's one thing that this person can take away from this episode where it's like, okay, then I can evaluate.
because I'm so conditioned, right? I'm thinking in their mind, like I'm so conditioned to be giving, giving, giving, or not prioritizing my health and doing everybody else's stuff instead of mine. Like, how do I even, it feels uncomfortable to do something like that. Like, how would I even begin with something simple that I can do for myself?
Amanda Hinman (31:49)
Mm-hmm.
Super simple and it is it's going to feel uncomfortable, right? Because especially everything that you said if it's not. If it's not the normal pattern anytime we are changing the pattern, it will feel uncomfortable and a phrase that I've used with clients often is like well, we get to choose our hard. Oftentimes the pattern that we're currently living is still hard. There are ramifications of that pattern.
Sarita Buer (32:11)
Mm, like that.
Amanda Hinman (32:18)
It's familiar, but it's still hard and what would happen if we choose a different hard?
just to be curious and just to see, right? So it's, it's again, putting you in a place of choice, but I can speak from my personal experience and what I've found works really powerfully for, for the women that I work with or that I'm drawn to connect with is.
Sarita Buer (32:26)
Love that.
Amanda Hinman (32:40)
have a some way of having like an ongoing learning platform because there is an overload of information specifically in the areas of health and also in the areas of wealth and finances like we live in the information age and there's no lack of knowledge out there but finding a way that you can just consistently bit by bit work like I think of it as like a curriculum.
I'm a lifelong learner and that I love to learn. And I almost want somebody to hold my hand and just kind of say, okay, like, let's start here and let's take this little step. If there's some baby step that you can take, if there's anyone in doing it with, you know, a mentor or a podcast or something where it's like, okay, this is something that I resonate with.
that I can start to build from, but find something that it's not gonna just be a one time, one it's undone, and then it's gonna go in one ear, out the other ear, but something where you're gonna consistently come back to learning and being tuned into possibility, surrounded by, if it's health, right? If it's health symptoms or hormone symptoms, what would that look like to learn more about foods, to learn more about, you know,
Sarita Buer (33:37)
Hehehehe
Amanda Hinman (33:58)
my nervous system and how this affects different gut health and things like that. What does that curriculum look like to set myself up for many weeks and months to just kind of be, be immersed in the experience, right? I think of like, what, what do you have on surround sound in your life? And I used to be in a place where admittedly like what was on surround sound? didn't even, it wasn't a conscious choice, but it was a lot of screen time, doom scrolling. was a lot of TV. It was a lot of that stuff. And it's like, that's all giving input.
But that wasn't really input in a way that was benefiting my life. It wasn't moving me in a direction that was useful or helpful. So I think having a source of consistent learning around you in the area of where you're struggling is helpful. And another like, this is a more practical, tangible strategy from like start small. Don't make it overly complex. You know, when I, when we think about meals, for example, one of the
I like to share the simple, simple one-hand meal plan approach for women because it starts to get us in this pattern of how can I, how can I be consistently creating meals that are complete meals that have a variety of nutrients that our bodies all thrive with and think of it as like PFFV. P is for protein. So a palm size serving of protein at every breakfast, and dinner, ideally.
F is for fiber, fiber-rich foods, things like legumes and whole grains and things like that. So like a scoop, if you have your hand and you scoop it out, at least one scoop per meal of a fiber-rich food. The second F is for fats, healthy omega-3 fats, like a thumb-sized serving of healthy omega-3 fats. This can be a couple of slices of avocado or walnuts or olive oil that you sprinkle over a salad. And then V is a full fist at a minimum, a full fist of veggies.
start with something super simple. PFFV. We're not talking about like keto or Mediterranean or gluten milk, you know, eliminate all gluten. Just start with the simple. If you're really in that place of, know, it's a, it's a big challenge. Start with baby steps and build from there.
Sarita Buer (35:56)
Great.
Absolutely wonderful advice, yes. It can get very overwhelming. that feedback is really, really supportive for me too. But I know that'll be supportive for people that are listening to that because it can be, the topic we're talking about can be very overwhelming because if you go into a bookstore, if you go on YouTube, you will see such a plethora of information on both these particular topics. so...
What ends up happening for a lot of people, know this for myself, is that when there's such a plethora of information out there, the knowledge kind of shuts off. My door is just kind of so overwhelmed. I always say, I always relate this, the information age is when I go into a Ross store versus going into a boutique store. When I go into a Ross store, I'm like, oh my God, I'm so overwhelmed with so many options. It's overwhelming, it's messy, it's crazy, it's chaos.
but versus going into like a boutique and being like, okay, I can select like the little thing that I like, you know, all these things. And it's the presentation and so much easier. So I love that you're sharing that in regards to the information that's out there and seeing, again, going back to what I was saying, it's like important to what you're prioritizing. Are you prioritizing putting the healthy things into your body, not just nourishment food-wise, but also like the information wise.
Amanda Hinman (37:01)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Sarita Buer (37:31)
I think that's really going to be impactful. It's been impactful for me. And obviously it's been impactful for you and then also the people that you've been supporting. So love, love, love that.
Amazing. So Amanda, I would love for you to share, like, do I know you mentioned, so how people can get in touch with you. You have a book and you can tell me that name again. You have a program so people can get in touch with you there. If people decide to again, have you be the person that they're going to be like, you know what, she's the type of person I want to have in my ear and start listening to. Where can they find you on social media?
Amanda Hinman (37:52)
I do.
Sarita Buer (38:10)
And then if you can mention that freebie offer again, that'd be fantastic.
Amanda Hinman (38:14)
Yes, definitely. So like I said, my book, bestselling book is the thyroid hormone solution. I do. So you can, you can go to Hinman Holistic and pick it up there with a bunch of resources where I do have the free hormone health assessment as well as some other resources. I'll share the link with you to put out that hormone assessment for your listeners as well. And Instagram, I'm at Hinman Amanda on Instagram and you can find me posting strategies and tips and small little, you know,
Sarita Buer (38:18)
you have it right there. I love it.
Wonderful.
Amanda Hinman (38:44)
inspirational pieces every week there. So that's a great place to connect on socials. But yeah, I definitely encourage your listeners, if they're in that space of struggling with health or wanting to kind of put some of the pieces of the puzzle together, like I said, find, reach out, find a source, whether it's myself or someone else that you resonate with and get in the space of learning, get in the space of inspiration and seeing what's possible because that's how you're going to be.
compelled, it turns into like almost like you can't help but want to take new actions and say like, I'm going to try this for, I want to try some of these things that I'm hearing and learning and seeing evidence of. And that's when you're going to create this powerful change.
Sarita Buer (39:26)
I love that, yeah. When I decided to lean into possibility, it was absolutely amazing what actually ended up transpiring and manifesting into my life because of that. So it wasn't just like the intention of eating healthier and addressing my wellness and my wellbeing and my self love and my story, because I have a big old story with all that. Definitely the intention aspect, but.
really, really leaning into the possibility of what could potentially unfold is where magic actually really ends up happening. So I love that you mentioned that.
Amanda Hinman (40:06)
Absolutely.
Sarita Buer (40:08)
So last words, I know we covered a lot of information and love all the shares and the wins that you've experienced yourself, what a transformational story and the women that you've helped and the women that you are going to help. for, you know, just for some final last words, if anybody is struggling in this area, even in the area of when it comes to like finances and money and things like that.
What are, what is just some final words of wisdom, nuggets of wisdom that you have for the person listening today?
Amanda Hinman (40:46)
You know, I think, I think it's, it's when you're in that hard spot, like I, we've both been there, right? It's, it's really, it can be really uncomfortable and really, really challenging. And I think sometimes you have to give yourself permission to just feel the suckiness and feel it. Don't try and bury it or, you know, cover it up and disassociate, like allow yourself to be in that because that actually is going to become the catalyst and the focusing agent.
Sarita Buer (41:03)
Amen to that.
Amanda Hinman (41:15)
for where you're gonna go next. I think myself, I can look back and recognize how for years I was self-medicating and I didn't realize it. Like I had a habit of just like after I get the kids to bed, when they were little toddlers, I'd grab a glass of wine, grab some chocolate and veg out on the couch. I'm like, this is my time, right? That was just self-medicating. I was just in the space of where I was completely depleted, but rather than recognizing what my body was really needing and asking for, I wasn't.
yet willing to see that or sit with it, you know? So it's okay. It's okay to be in the suck sometimes and to know that when you're in that space and you allow yourself to feel it, that's when you're going to turn a corner and that's when new possibilities open up. And also allow yourself to be witnessed in that space too, because there are so many great resources, whether it be yourself, myself, others, there's so many great resources and especially as women.
That's part of the transformation is when you can be witnessed as your whole self and your real authentic self. That's part of the nervous system healing that takes place rather than hiding.
Sarita Buer (42:27)
Yes, heal it to feel it. So true, so true. And you touched upon this. Being in gentle inquiry, that's my phrase that I've been saying now is being in a non-judgmental inquiry when like emotions and feelings come up and all that. just, you know, feeling those emotions, riding the wave, going through the process. And then also,
Amanda Hinman (42:29)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Sarita Buer (42:50)
being that gentle observer to see like, okay, like what are, why am I feeling like this? Where is this coming from? And then also that'll, like you said, it'll be the fuel for the fire to help you through the larger part. So love that. Thank you so much, Amanda. It's been such a pleasure speaking with you today on the podcast. I really appreciate all the work that you're doing. It's so needed. And the...
Amanda Hinman (43:05)
Mm-hmm.
Sarita Buer (43:15)
very unique approach that you have that's very holistic. So it's not just like a one size fits all. Like that is so important to me to shed light on people that are doing work that are, that is definitely not going to be cookie cutter. That's going to be so tailored to every person's individual needs. So love it.
Amanda Hinman (43:35)
My pleasure. Thanks for having me on the show. was definitely a great conversation.
Sarita Buer (43:39)
Amazing. And thank you so much everybody for being here today. And as always, I leave you with keep being the amazing you that you are and we'll see you next time. Take care.