Sarita Buer (00:01.416)
Hello, hello and welcome back to another episode of Back to Here with Sarita, the new Manifesting Paradigm podcast. Super excited you're here with me today. I am really, really stoked to introduce to you my amazing guest that is also a manifestation coach. Actually, Kelly, you're the first manifestation coach I've had on the podcast. So I'm like even more excited to be sharing your story, your message and everything.
So Kelly Pender is a neuroscience manifestation coach and host of the Badass Bay Manifestation Podcast. She is an expert in simplifying money and abundance manifestation through the fusion of science-based techniques and quantum physics for spiritual entrepreneurs. Kelly, you're my first manifestation coach on here. How does that feel?
Kelly Pender (00:53.321)
I'm so honored, yay! Thank you for having me. this is gonna be so freakin' fun.
Sarita Buer (00:58.96)
I know, super excited. So today we are going to be talking about the science behind manifestation, which is the first time I'm actually going to be talking about that in completion during a whole podcast episode. I've sprinkled it around a little bit in the last, I would say like year or so. And then I've shared it on my social media, but we're going to dive a lot deeper. And Kelly's like the perfect person to explain and go deeper about this.
So before we get into the meat and potatoes of the episode, Kelly, I always love to hear people's story about how they got to be where they are and especially like what really drew you into the manifestation world and spirituality and entrepreneurship.
Kelly Pender (01:45.147)
Ooh, yes. I love this. Yes. No, this is great. I'm like, okay, where do I start? So I actually started when I allowed myself to follow where I was going and the curiosities that were pulling me. I started as a yoga teacher. And so that's where my path led me based off of finding Oracle cards and crystals and being into aura. And from there, yoga teacher training came my way.
Sarita Buer (01:46.142)
Loaded question.
Kelly Pender (02:14.983)
became a full-time yoga teacher and I was like, I manifested that, like, fuck yes, okay, right? And so I was in the yoga world for quite a few years and created some really awesome things. And then after a while I was like, I feel my soul wanting to go deeper and wanting to expand more and wanting to talk about...
what my students would talk about in a yoga class where they were like, you know, I'm really doubting myself. You know, I'm having imposter syndrome. And I, instead of teaching a yoga class, wanted to be like, let's fucking talk about it. Like, let's talk about where that's coming from and what's coming up for you so we can move through it. But because at the time I was a yoga teacher, I wasn't allowing myself to explore that.
because pulling on all these beliefs of like, well, who am I to do this? I'm not their therapist. I'm not their coach. I'm not a guide, a leader. I'm just a yoga teacher. And so I kept myself in this labeled box for a while until I had a spiritual awakening. I went through a whole grief, healing loss process. And in that time of not knowing what to do with myself, a training came my way.
neuro-linguistic programming, life and success coaching, EFT tapping and hypnosis. I'm like, there's science behind manifestation. There's more to this than just affirming in the mirror and pretending you're high vibe, which like never really felt authentic for me. And I didn't really understand that. And I was tired of the fluff and whatnot. So yeah.
Sarita Buer (03:58.207)
Yeah.
Kelly Pender (04:04.965)
I dove into that certification and just allowed myself to become a coat from there. And it's fucking everything to learn what's going on in your brain and how you truly are in control when it comes to manifesting everything that you want.
Sarita Buer (04:24.178)
Yes. man, I resonate with that so deeply, like especially when you were saying like, I'm just a yoga teacher. Like I, I, that lands with me so heavily and I'm sure you hear people say this to you, who you work with or people you encounter where it's like, well, you know, it's just, it's just something that I use. Like why would I like really share it? And you said imposter syndrome. That's something that was like so prevalent with me. I was just sharing with you before we.
started this recording how before it was like, was so terrified to talk about manifestation because like my life didn't look like, my life didn't look like what I saw on social media when it came to people that I respected and I looked up to that were manifestation coaches. And I was like, well, I don't have like a seven figure business. Like I'm not traveling the world just yet. Like I'm living like a life.
Kelly Pender (05:09.096)
Mm-hmm.
Sarita Buer (05:19.006)
with freedom, I'm like, I just, I'm not, you know, and I'm manifesting like little things that doesn't matter. That doesn't count. No one wants to hear about that. You know, you go through this like long, you go through this like deep, you know, rabbit hole and it's so fascinating how like you were just saying, like with that, with that perception, with that thought, it just like keeps creating like the same thing over and over again with, you know, with our brain. So I love that. I love that.
You came through figuring out through some time. So what for you was kind of a changing direction or impacting other than doing the courses and going through your deep spiritual journey? was like, I guess, what was like almost your pen permissionary slip for you to start being like, you know what, this is, I'm claiming this and I want to move forward and sharing and teaching more people about this.
Kelly Pender (06:16.477)
Yes, so this is a moment that's going to happen to everyone and probably is happening to those who are listening. And so when I finished that certification, I shifted into mindset coaching, right? And I started doing mindset work and mindset coaching. And from my clients, I would just receive like amazing testimonials and amazing.
you know, shares and transformations. And I was like, my God, this is so great. And yet I still wasn't allowing myself to see my power, my potency and my wisdom because I was stuck in that not enough lack neural pathway on repeat where it was like what you were saying. I'm not there yet. I haven't created the six, seven figure business yet. I'm not a millionaire yet.
Sarita Buer (06:58.047)
Yes.
Kelly Pender (07:11.067)
I don't have this yet. I don't have this many clients yet. I haven't even created a course yet. I haven't even created this yet. And because I was so focused on what I haven't done yet, what I haven't created yet, I wasn't allowing myself to see my power and potency and transformations of what already has been created, right? So I feel that in any given moment, wherever you are,
Sarita Buer (07:19.21)
you
Kelly Pender (07:39.089)
You could either focus on what isn't here yet, what you haven't done yet, or you can focus on the transformations, the impact that you are already making. Right? And if right now someone's who's who is listening, if they're like, well, I'm not working with clients yet. Okay. No big deal. If you show up on social media and you just record yourself doing an Instagram story of a shift, a breakthrough, like something that you experienced.
You don't even know and you can't even imagine that could impact one person, 10 people, 100 people, 200 people, just from sharing your story, right? Like you don't have to be working with someone yet in order to be making an impact. You're making an impact just by showing up as you and owning your potency and power and who you are being.
Sarita Buer (08:35.208)
I love that. reclaiming your power, your sovereignty, your ownership of your own energy. I feel like with the experience that I've had in particular, I think about reflecting back. I could focus on the last three years of being like, it's been such a struggle going through heartbreak and...
bankruptcy and overcoming alcoholism, like all these things, it's such a journey. It's been so frustrating. It's been like, you know, so that's like a story that I could have, or it could be like, look at all the triumphs that I've gone through. Look at the impact that I've made on myself. And then also I want to take it even off social media for somebody that's like, well, I don't really like, I'm not a coach. I'm not doing that stuff.
But even when you are having breakthroughs, when you're having these things, profound moments, and you're sharing them even with a friend or your significant other, that's impacting your world, that's impacting your children, that's impacting your family. I didn't realize that until not that long ago with all the healing that I've done. Because I don't necessarily, this is off on a tangent, but I don't necessarily have the best relationship with my mother or didn't have it as a child growing up.
And then since I've been doing deep dives and a lot more manifestation work and on myself, I find that my relationship with my mother is like not as triggering for me. like there's, there's an example of how, regardless of looking at, know, what you've experienced from the past, you know, but like, I'm not there yet. Like I'm not, I don't have this profound, amazing relationship with my mother yet. Right. I could focus on that, but.
Kelly Pender (10:04.713)
Mmm.
Kelly Pender (10:18.877)
Yeah.
Sarita Buer (10:20.595)
what I can focus on is like, wow, like, look how much healing I've done that I'm less triggered when I actually have a conversation with her. So that's like apart from like the social media thing, which is still super impactful. And that's still reclaiming your sovereignty and your power and all that. So love, love, it.
Kelly Pender (10:34.258)
Yes.
Kelly Pender (10:40.525)
that's beautiful. Yeah, that's amazing. And it's like, when we're in it, I don't think that we realize how impactful and powerful these like sometimes we can have the smallest shift and breakthrough internally. And then it creates this huge ripple effect in all areas of our lives.
Sarita Buer (11:00.747)
Yes, yes, so, so true. So let's get into the science because I want to pick your brain girl, because you have so much amazing knowledge and information around the neuroscience around manifestation. So for somebody, let's start with like basics here. For somebody that's new to manifestation, most likely, and this has been the experience that I've, when I've talked to people, they've mostly gotten,
they've mostly gotten the information or been introduced through the law of attraction and most likely have been listening to people like Gabby Bernstein or Esther Hicks. And that's usually the introduction that people get. then, you know, whatever's on social media and people basically reinterpreting and sharing information, right? And then...
Kelly Pender (11:55.069)
Yeah. Yeah.
Sarita Buer (11:56.239)
Now there's so much more information, thank goodness, around manifestation and the neuroscience behind it. Like I love Dr. Joe Dispenza. He's like one of my favorite people to read his books and then also his information that's on social media. So for somebody that is, okay, like, all right, like this is an introduction I've had, or I've been listening to Sadeeta's podcast for a little bit, and I've like dabbled around in it. So someone that's kind of newer, like what is...
a basic like 101 way to explain manifestation in a science-based approach.
Kelly Pender (12:33.043)
Yes. Okay. So the only thing that you need to know is that your subconscious mind runs 90, 95 % of the show, right? And if you're like, well, give me an example. What do you mean by that? So I want you to think about you drive, let's say to work every single day, you drive somewhere at least three times a week. Have you ever like parked in your driveway or parked your car and you're like,
I do not even remember that drive at all. How did I get here? What was I doing? I remember I was listening to a podcast and then I just parked the car. How did you get there? If you consciously were like, my God, I like blacked out, I don't know. How did you drive the car and arrive into that park spot? Your subconscious remembers that path because you do it day in and day out, right? So, so many of us are not
consciously aware of our habits, pattern patterns, our thoughts. So we're hypnotized by these old thought forms that are running the show. Right. So if we are, for example, trying to be high vibe because we heard that on someone's social media in their reel and we're like, that's the secret to manifesting. I need to be high vibe. And so we're showing up being like
This girl told me to be high vibe. So like, here I am feeling happy and joyful, but your subconscious mind is like, no, you didn't finish this email. You didn't get your to-do list done. You're not allowed to be happy. You're not enough. So let's just keep that same habit pattern thought on repeat, which is why I don't ever start by saying just.
Sarita Buer (14:04.107)
You
Kelly Pender (14:27.443)
change your thoughts, just be high vibe because we need to first understand what is going on in your brain, okay? So here's the deal. We have neural pathways and I'm trying not to be too sciency. So I'm gonna explain this in a fun way.
Sarita Buer (14:43.955)
No, throw the science. Well, we can go into the science in a minute, yes.
Kelly Pender (14:48.913)
Okay, so we have neural pathways in our brain. And so the way that I explain them is you may see wherever like people talk about money blocks, I have money blocks, I have love blocks, I have whatever blocks. You don't have a block because blocks sound permanent and like they can't be removed or fixed. You just have a cock block, right? That's what I call them because they can be removed and fixed easily.
And so many of us, when it comes to creating our life on purpose, to manifesting anything that we desire, we have three main quote unquote blocks. That's either lack slash scarcity, not enough or unlovable, okay? And so we either have one, two or all three activated. If you have all three, there's nothing wrong with you, okay?
And so when we have those activated, what happens is our neural pathways, think of them as like trails in your brain. If you're walking this path to work, if you're hiking this trail, you do it every single weekend, it's deeply grooved and ingrained because it's the same thought of, well, it's really hard for me to be in a relationship. All of my past relationships have failed. No one loves me.
Well, it's really hard for me to go all into my business and make a lot of money in my business because that launch that I just did, no one signed up. So I guess that this is just how it's always going to be, right? Not enough, not enough money, whatever it may be. Those thoughts that are going on behind the scenes, they're deeply ingrained. We're walking that pathway day in and day out. I don't know. I don't know how many times, right? Everyone's unique and everyone has individual.
thoughts, habits, patterns. So those neural pathways in your brain are linked to your reticular activating system. All that is, is the lens of how you view the world, your life, your relationships, job, career, your business through, right? So if we've been traveling this path of I'm not enough, I feel like an imposter in my business, who am I to call myself a manifestation coach? Who am I to?
Kelly Pender (17:02.739)
create a multiple six figure, seven figure business, who am I to do this? Your reticular activating system is going to keep showing you more and more experiences of, see, it's not working. See, you just put out that real and no one commented because no one cares because you're not enough, right? So your subconscious mind is always trying to prove you right. It's always trying to seek evidence.
to continue to activate that old neural pathway, right? So what I teach is instead of slapping on a high vibe bandaid, instead of slapping on a, I'm a rich bitch, I'm a millionaire affirmation that doesn't do anything, cause you're just consciously reciting it. What we get to do is go back to a time where we decided we weren't enough.
where we decided we were unlevelable, where we decided that we're meant to struggle and life is hard. Go back to that time, zero to seven in the womb, past life or generational to remove it so that you can install new beliefs, new neurological hardware. And then so your reticular activating system will show you,
Sarita Buer (18:22.679)
Mm-hmm.
Kelly Pender (18:27.131)
Look at this, it is working. look at what you just manifested. Right? So it all starts in the brain, in the subconscious mind.
Sarita Buer (18:37.662)
Right. Love it. Oof. That just lights me up just talking about this. Going back to running our subconscious, running the show. And I love the three fears usually people have or I can't remember what you indicate, what they were called specifically. But that is, it really boils down to what somebody is experiencing. the subconscious, just the other day, literally I was like,
coming out of Best Buy after I bought this new computer. And I'm like, just kind of getting on the freeway and I start heading, so I'm house sitting right now and I start heading home and I'm like, wait a second, I'm not going home. I'm going back to the house that I'm actually sitting at. So that's like a perfect example of the subconscious running the show, right? Because it was just such a mundane activity that I do. Like, you know, I exit out of this area and I go like back to my home. Like that's not where I'm at right now.
So subconscious is definitely running the show. what is another, because we'll get into the other aspects of this and especially more about like how somebody can actually rewire and reprogram and reset these stories. And I find it very, very fascinating. So when you were talking about with the subconscious and how the reticular activating system, the RAS,
does the job of verifying and reconfirming information. What's a reconfirming experience somebody that may have that they don't even realize? Like something that you've found through working with your clients and people that come to you with questions. What's a reoccurring theme or story that
people experience over and over again that they're not even aware of it at all, that it's just like, wow, when it comes up to that conscious level, they're just like, how was I on this repeat story? Like, what's a really common one that you've seen that people are experiencing?
Kelly Pender (20:46.109)
Yeah, I'm like, let's see, there's so many different ones. Where do I start? But a very common one is like, there's another unexpected bill in the mail. I just got a flat tire, damn it, there's another bill, there's another payment I have to make, right? Like, this just happened, now I have to do this and spend more money.
Sarita Buer (20:49.484)
How, where do I start?
Kelly Pender (21:11.943)
Right? So I see that a lot when we are in the lack slash scarcity. It's like your reticular activating system keeps showing you more experiences of, I don't have enough. Ugh, another thing just came. Ugh, another thing that I have to deal with and figure out. Right? So if you've ever been in that scenario, which like we 100 % all have, it feels like all at once.
you keep getting these unexpected bills or like shitty things keep happening, right? And a lot of people say, I really don't like this, but a lot of people say like bad things come in three. Is that the truth? Or is it just like, we're seeking those negative shitty things to happen so your subconscious can keep proving to you, see?
Sarita Buer (21:55.543)
Mm-hmm.
Kelly Pender (22:07.537)
you are on the lack slash scarcity slash struggle bus. See, there's another thing that you have to deal with. So it can appear that way. It can appear the not enough activation lack neuro pathway can be like, like I was saying, see, I just spent, I don't know, six weeks creating this course and no one signed up.
I just spent all this time on this reel, two hours creating this reel and I got three likes. Ugh, I just did this and again, crickets, right? So there's another real life example of what can happen when your subconscious mind is programmed to lack or, and or not enough.
Sarita Buer (22:52.672)
Yeah, that's so true. I kind of relating it, I did an episode last year around June when I was sharing around my love life and my dating life, because I've been single now for three years and reflecting on how the RAS, the reticular activating system was reconfirming to me how the men that I was like seeking relationship with, because I was coming from a state of
Kelly Pender (23:04.265)
Hmm.
Sarita Buer (23:20.028)
needing validation and needing confirmation that I'm like enough from somebody else versus, you know, going through me and actually confirming that with myself. I kept manifesting experiences with these men and dating experiences that they were like not committing or not being fully in. They weren't, you know, giving me what I needed. They weren't showing up in the way that I wanted to.
But when I realized, when I started to acknowledge, and my big breakthrough last year was like, wow, like seeking validation, seeking completeness, that was what I said, completeness outside of myself, which was through validation, through like dating and getting attention. That was a big breakthrough for me that I was like, wow, like don't want to have these repeating stories over over again where I'm having, you know,
people in my environment basically mirroring what's incomplete in me. I found that so crazy. It was so wild that I was like, wow. And kind of going on that, that's basically what's happening, right? With our subconscious, you're saying, because I love the word mirror, what's happening? So these grooves.
Kelly Pender (24:23.347)
Yep. Yes.
Sarita Buer (24:43.242)
these grooves and these pathways that we keep creating and we're walking over and creating this like almost instilled groove until we switch the story is coming up to the surface and mirroring outward to us, right? What's actually happening inside? Can you go into that a little bit more?
Kelly Pender (25:05.661)
What's happening, can you repeat that question about mirroring and what's happening inside?
Sarita Buer (25:09.226)
Yeah. Yeah. So the experience that we're having, let's say like the not enoughness, right? And not feeling worthy, like that experience ourselves inside and we're having that, those not only feelings, but those deep seated beliefs and they keep manifesting to us over and over again. It's basically a mirror to us, right? To what is actually happening underneath the surface.
Kelly Pender (25:15.687)
Mm-hmm.
Kelly Pender (25:35.783)
Yes, yes, for sure. So like I said, it's your subconscious mind always wants to prove you right. It always wants to prove you right, right? And so when you were talking, I was like, wait, what did you just ask? I was having this visual of like someone walking on a trail. And so I invite everyone to just have this visual.
because when we start to think about, okay, so if I've been walking these pathways and I've been having these same experiences that I don't want, I get to do something different, right? And so what happens is your subconscious mind is like, well, if we're doing something different, that's unknown and that's unfamiliar to me. So immediately I feel fear.
immediately I feel uncertainty and immediately I feel uncomfortable as fuck. Right? And so what I want to say with this is that when you are creating something new for yourself, it's going to feel uncomfortable. And this is where a lot of people try something out. They like quote unquote, try to manifest for one day, two days. And they're like, no, this is uncomfortable. It's not working for me.
Right? So what I want to say before I talk about what's going on and how to create new pathways is this work requires you to get uncomfortable. It requires you to get uncomfortable because right now your comfort zone is what you've been experiencing day in and day out. Right? And if it's something that you don't desire to keep living day in and day out, then it's going to require something different. So
when you were talking, the visual I was having, and I want everyone to visualize this who's listening, like just imagine you're in the woods and you see this trail. This trail is just like beautiful and it's open and the sun is just like shining through and you're like, okay, I'm gonna take this trail. It looks very inviting. That's a known and familiar trail, lack, scarcity, struggle, not enough, unlovable, but it's known so it's comfortable to you.
Kelly Pender (27:59.581)
When you want to start to create new neural pathways, new thoughts, new beliefs, what do you have to do? You have to take the trail that doesn't exist next to it that looks a little scary. That's like filled with old leaves and rocks and just shit, right? But you're the one who gets to take that new pathway. You're the one who gets to create something new and different for yourself. And it all starts with right now when you're in that like,
I could either lean in this known and familiar direction of lack, scarcity and struggle, or I could lean in this direction of possibilities and potential, which is unknown, which is uncertain, but I know I'm going to be safe. You right now are at choice. You are at choice. And when you are at choice, this brings you back into control. When you're back into control, you're back into your power.
Right? So that's the first step before we keep going. That's the first step to begin to create new neural pathways that work for you.
Sarita Buer (29:11.788)
so manifesting takes, in other words, manifesting takes courage. It feels like you, you are a trailblazer, in other words. So the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again. And so we're trying to be like sane by not being insane, by doing the things over and over again, creating new, a new pathway. love that visual that you shared. I'm just saying I'm a huge hiker. So I love going out in nature and like,
Kelly Pender (29:23.399)
None.
Sarita Buer (29:41.758)
and hiking trails. so being a trailblazer, going off-roading, literally off-roading, and creating a new program story path, all these things for yourself. And going back to what you were saying with how we can do that, it's so for somebody just like, all right, I've gotten this consciousness of a story that
has come to the surface, right? And I think this is where people get a little hung up on things. they have this awareness. They've come up with this awareness, right? We'll take money, for example, because that's a huge thing. And this is what you talk about, too. So let's say they have this money story that came forth. And one of the things that came up that was like, I have a
relationship with money because I, when I have it, I spend it. When I don't have it, I spend it. So I have AKA a roller coaster relationship with money. Okay. So that's come up to awareness. They're like, okay, I'm cognizant of this. It's in my consciousness. It's come from the subconsciousness. It's obviously still there in the subconscious because like it can play out, but like, okay, so now it's there and I'm doing, doing the work, which, you know, could look like a many different things. Like let's create a budget or like do what they need to do.
human footsteps, what would you say to somebody or how would you support them in regards to, yes, creating a new neural pathway, but what does that actually look like? Because it's like, all right, I get it. I got it. But how do I do that, Kelly?
Kelly Pender (31:06.792)
Mm-hmm.
Kelly Pender (31:18.249)
Okay.
Kelly Pender (31:24.093)
Yes. Yeah. Okay. So this is what I like to teach like second step. So exactly what you just said. First step is awareness. Second step is pattern interrupting, right? Like consciously and subconsciously pattern interrupting. So here's an example and we'll go back to that money one in a second. What is the very first thing that you do when you wake up?
most people immediately grab their phone. Look at it, look at their messages, look at this, like, and then it brings them into this feeling, these thoughts, these patterns of, no, I'm behind, I didn't do this, I have this bill to pay, da da da, and we just immediately get ourselves activated in this frequency of worry, stress, not enough. So,
a pattern interruption would be, okay, so if I check my phone every single morning, what if instead of checking my phone, I just took a breath in bed and I'm like, what would be fun for me to do today? What would make me feel good today? I'm gonna go get myself a coffee. I'm going to read one page of my book today. I'm gonna stand outside in the sun because that makes me feel really good and active and alive.
Can you, instead of doing the same thing over and over and over again, can you do one thing and plan to do one thing that day that's going to make you feel good? That's how you can start to pattern interrupt. so weaving that into a money story of like, I don't have enough money. What if you could practice instead of when you check your bank account and you're like, fuck.
like, I don't have enough. I don't know how I'm going to pay this bill. What if you could check your bank account and instead just get curious, just get curious, instead of get stressed, get worried, get in this heightened sensation. What if you could just be like, hmm, this is what's in my bank account and allow yourself to just sit with that.
Kelly Pender (33:44.955)
Instead of going to the known and familiar story, neural pathway of it's not enough. I can't do this. I can't do this. I can't do this. Just sit with it. Just look at it without making it mean anything about you. And those who are listening may be like, my God, Kelly, that's a big ask. I see like $2 in my checking account. How in the hell can I not make that mean something about me? It's a practice. It's a practice, right?
And can you make those $2.22 in your bank account be like, okay, there's money in there, right? Instead of there's not enough money. It's never enough. I don't have enough. It's just these little simple, simple tweaks to practice. It's a practice. It's like trying something new on. Right now, the known and familiar neural pathway, like I said, is lack and not enough.
but you're also practicing the frequency of stress, anxiety, and worry. So can you practice a different frequency of, there's $2 in there, who knows? $20 could come in in five minutes, $200 could come in, $2,000 could come in. I don't know, but I'm open to possibilities. I'm open to the potential of it, and I'm going to practice the frequency of being supported.
and knowing I'm safe.
Sarita Buer (35:16.915)
So manifestation, like you said, circling back to what you mentioned, it takes balls. It takes like, it takes creating, it takes courage. It really does. Because the old pattern of behavior of looking at a bank account, having anxiety, having panic is actually, even though it feels unsafe, it's actually your safe zone. It's actually what's familiar to you. The panic and the worry is
Kelly Pender (35:23.741)
Yes.
Kelly Pender (35:45.234)
Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes.
Sarita Buer (35:46.707)
what's familiar. And I think a lot of people, including myself, because I've been through this before, and I've been through this with money and other aspects of my life, and I still am going through stuff, being aware, I love how you were saying that, like being the observer, being the gentle observer of your experience of what's happening to you presently, and getting curious and asking questions.
I think that's why I'm a podcast host because I actually really love asking questions. I'm a big question asker. I was raised by a teacher. I raised by a teacher. So like I always ask lots of questions and getting curious, getting into like, then it doesn't need to be this like Spanish inquisition of like a million questions. can just be one, like you were saying, like one simple thing. What can shift here? What's a different experience that I can bring to this situation right now?
Kelly Pender (36:18.407)
Yes, we love that.
Sarita Buer (36:43.349)
What's a different feeling I can have right now? What's a different frequency I can go to at this moment versus my normal, everyday pattern that seems comfortable? I think when we start to, this is just dropping into me right now, but I think when we start to recognize that these patterns of behavior are like a comfort zone,
For me, I feel like it's a little comforting to know that I'm not a bad person. I'm not terrible for experiencing. I think that's where people get so, because when they come to manifestation and come to the law of attraction and frequency, like you were saying at the very beginning, there's this perception of, I must be high vibe and I can't think negative at all. I can't experience these emotions. I need to stay there.
Kelly Pender (37:10.515)
Yeah.
Kelly Pender (37:31.325)
Yeah.
Kelly Pender (37:36.264)
Yeah.
Sarita Buer (37:38.927)
Knowing that patterns, behaviors, anxiety, stress, all these scarcity things are a comfort zone, it actually makes me feel a little bit more comforted and knowing that's just a story that I've had on repeat. It's just like a, well, I was gonna say broken record. Most people don't know what that is nowadays, but like a thing that just keeps going over and over again. So I love that, yeah.
Kelly Pender (37:55.699)
Yes.
Kelly Pender (38:07.559)
Yeah. Yeah. And then I know you didn't. I'm like, girl, who doesn't know what a broken record is? But I guess there's some people who don't. No, I love, I love how that landed for you. And, and see, that's the thing, because that's when I say get curious, it's like, to just add another layer there, you get to see, this is what's been on repeat. This has been my comfort zone. Okay.
Sarita Buer (38:08.437)
dated myself.
Sarita Buer (38:16.683)
Yeah.
Kelly Pender (38:34.973)
Do I actually even believe this? Do I actually even believe that like, I'm the type of person who just is always getting by, who always just has enough? Do I actually believe that or has that just been appearing to be my truth up until now? And if I don't believe that anymore and if I don't believe that to be my truth anymore, I can see it was just a story.
And if I can see it's just a story and I'm the one who wrote that story, then I can write a new story, bringing you back into control. Like these things that you're going to become aware of, you'll be like, that's not even my story. That's my mom's story. I've heard growing up about how she feels around money. That's not my story about if I make more money in my business, I'm going to become an asshole and a greedy person. That's my dad's story that I heard when I was 15. And I've just been carrying that and protecting myself.
for fear of our relationship crumbling if I were to become successful, right? So when I say get curious, like get fucking curious and see what is going on behind the scenes and see, that actually even yours? Or is that one of your parents or partners or someone else's story that you've been taking on as your own?
Sarita Buer (39:59.103)
So true and going what you were saying before is like, when did I decide that? When was that decision made? I remember reflecting when I was doing some deep money healing. I've been doing it over the last couple of years. And when I first started, I remember getting an image of my mother taking those penny sleeves and putting pennies in these sleeves. And I don't know if you've ever done that before it, but you literally have to
Kelly Pender (40:04.552)
Yeah.
Sarita Buer (40:28.885)
pinch the penny into the sleeve. It's not a very easy thing to do. So I was not only visually seeing her pinch pennies, but also like it was subconsciously being planted. And I remember her putting them into a pencil box and saving these pennies whenever she had them. So she was like storing them away and keeping them safe. And, you know, this is what I do with my money. And so it was very fascinating how that unfolded in my life.
where I would pinch pennies and clip coupons. And I'm not saying this is negative, right? Like, this is not a negative thing. Like, saving money is great, right? And getting a deal is awesome. Like, I love those things. And my relationship to that was that, like, I felt like I had to do that because that's what was subconsciously taught to me. And when I realized, I'm like, this is not authentic to me. Like, I don't have the same...
dynamic as my mother. Like, I'm not her. I don't have two children that I'm trying to support on my own. just the situation is different. Like, why would I be doing these same things and believing these same things that she was believing? Because they're not of service to me at all. Like, that's her. That's her thing. So that's huge and profound for me when I, like, remember that.
Kelly Pender (41:37.801)
Yeah.
Kelly Pender (41:45.533)
Yes.
Kelly Pender (41:51.695)
Mm, that's amazing. That's amazing. See, and right there is like a huge pattern interruption. And like, you just broke their generational story that could have been carried and could have been passed on, which a lot of the times it is. And right there in that moment, you broke it because you decided you didn't want to carry that. It's not yours to carry. It was hers.
Sarita Buer (42:17.215)
Yes, manifestation is courage. It's a decision. It takes balls. Like all these things. I love it. I love, love, it. And I can keep talking to you forever, Kelly. This is amazing. Before we kind of step into the last part of the episode, I did want to ask you before, like I asked you, you know, our final questions. But when you were saying,
And to me, it sounds like timeline jumping, like what you were talking about before, and when people decide. So that final step, I think you want to share, for people creating new neural pathways. And then what's kind of the final thing that people can do? They made the decision, right? And they're creating the new pathways and getting curious and all the things.
I'm assuming there's some kind of level of maintenance that needs to happen. Like, what does that look like for somebody that's like, OK, I've gotten to step one, I've gotten to step two. all right, how can, what's next? Like, what can I keep doing?
Kelly Pender (43:19.741)
Yes. So next is after you became aware, you pattern interrupted, you started to weave in some new belief systems. So now you get to become a different version of yourself, right? So we love reprogramming and rewiring the subconscious. And the key to manifestation is then action, making the move.
taking the action, making the decision, right? So I invite you to, from this moment, moving forward, now that you're becoming aware, and for those who are listening, you're gonna be like, my God, I'm becoming so aware day in and day out, amazing, great. So now you get to be the person who already has what it is that you're manifesting.
You get to show up as them, you get to move as them, you get to create as them. And this simple action is creating a new identity, right? From how you're being and how you're being, who you're being is everything. Who you're being, that's what money responds to. That's what sales, that's what clients respond to. That's what love responds to. That's what your desires respond to, joy, all of it. Who you're being.
Right? So now that you're pattern interrupting, creating those new neural pathways, show up as that person. Right? Take that move or make that decision that's been scaring the shit out of you because you've been holding yourself back, keeping yourself in your comfort zone. That exact action, move, decision, whatever it is, is the key to your manifestation. So take it.
take it without holding yourself back because that's the missing piece.
Sarita Buer (45:20.371)
Become the next level 2.0 version of yourself. Love it. Love, love, it. And embracing that.
Kelly Pender (45:25.959)
Yeah, yeah, take the action. Make the move. Yeah, it's like, just allow yourself to do it, you know, with fear and take the fucking fear with you. It doesn't mean anything about you. It comes with the territory.
Sarita Buer (45:41.45)
Mm-hmm. Right. Messy action. think looking back at my life, just taking the action and not... I'm an Aries, so it's like I'm very action-oriented. I'm a double Aries, too. Aries Rising and Aries Sun. So action is like my middle name. I'm an act-now-think-later person. And I would tell you like 95 % of the time, like I had no action plan.
Kelly Pender (46:02.897)
Yeah.
Sarita Buer (46:08.167)
or any knowledge of how things were going to unfold or what's going to happen. But it's just taking the messy action. And regardless, you're going to be supported, you're going to be cared for, you're going be taken care of. Everything is going to fall into place exactly the way that it's supposed to. Because the universe does... The universe meets you. This is what I figured out, is the universe will meet you where you are.
And if you are just sitting there on the couch, day in and day out, and being like, I'm manifesting money and doing all these things. Like, I can sit here and meditate. And you're talking about the crystals. And I'm going to manifest like $10 million, right? And the universe is going to meet you right where you are. And you can keep saying, circling back to what you were saying at the beginning, like the affirmation is everything.
They can be supportive, yet if you're not taking the actual action to do the thing, to create, call in all the things with money, let's say, or love, then the universe isn't gonna meet you. I mean, the universe isn't gonna meet you where you are, like wherever the place that is.
Kelly Pender (47:03.006)
Yeah.
Kelly Pender (47:21.365)
Exactly. Yeah, yeah. It's all about who you're being. And if you want to timeline hop, if you want to quantum leap, then you get to become the frequency of the version of you who already has it because your desires are already created. They already exist in the quantum field, right? And so to bring it in more quickly, be on that frequency, feel the emotions that you would feel already having it.
Right? And not a mental concept of being like, my God, if I had more money, I'd be happy to Doug Kelly. It's like, okay, that's a mental concept. I want you to go from your mind into your body. How would it feel seeing a thousand more dollars in your bank account? How would it feel seeing an extra zero in your bank account? How would it feel seeing two extra zeros in your bank account? Like get into that frequency, feel that emotion. That's the magnetic charge to pool.
your manifestation that already exists into the quantum into the here and now.
Sarita Buer (48:22.141)
Love it. my gosh. That's a whole nother episode right there. Like quantum. A quantum leap. That's so awesome. I love it. Kelly, that's amazing. Everything that you've shared. So you've really given some very clear action steps people can do to be able to have a better relationship with manifestation, number one. Reclaim their authority and their power. I mean, that's the theme that keeps coming back up.
Kelly Pender (48:25.681)
whole other episode.
Kelly Pender (48:32.883)
Yes.
Sarita Buer (48:51.357)
I think I really want to land with people like the most is that like you literally have the power to create, to call in, to create new neural pathways, to create new stories, to connect with version of you that already has the thing that you desire. And yeah, I love that. Everything, everything is amazing. So my last and final question that I always ask people because
This year, 2024, the theme, if you add that up, equals eight, is abundance, infinity. love in these chats or abundance chats, And I just would love to know from you because as a manifestation coach and as somebody who has gone through the thing and experienced abundance, I'm sure in many different capacities, what does abundance mean to Kelly?
Kelly Pender (49:46.429)
my gosh, so many things. I mean, the first one that's coming to mind is just limitless, limitless love, joy, laughter, so much laughter. Like abundance to me, specifically, probably number one frequency is laughter. So much, so much laughter, so much fun. And it's just like unlimited possibilities and potential and just like
Sarita Buer (50:06.044)
I love it. I love it.
Kelly Pender (50:15.055)
excitement and surprise of what can be.
Sarita Buer (50:21.084)
I love that. Such a great response. Yeah, joy, laughter. And we've done a little bit of that today during our episode. Been giggling a little bit. Awesome. OK, so where can people connect with you? What's your Instagram handle? I'll have all that in the show notes. But shout out, how can people connect with you? What are your offerings? If people want to be like, I want to work with Kelly, like ASAP. do you got to offer?
Kelly Pender (50:27.694)
Yes.
Kelly Pender (50:45.831)
Yes. So I'm on Instagram at the underscore badass babe. Also my podcast, badass babe manifest. I have a free course that you can access on my Instagram and then my mastermind manifest that shit university is for the woman who's ready to become limitless and have hold and create any amount of wealth. So yeah, you can head on over to my Instagram or podcast. Yeah.
Sarita Buer (51:08.648)
I love that name, Manifest That Shit. I love that name. I love it. I love it. Yes, I actually have something that I put on my Instagram that says Manifest It, and I put a little emoji, the poop emoji. it. Love a bit. Amazing. Kelly's, thank you so much. Again, I'll have all Kelly's information down below in the show notes so you can connect with her, get that free.
Kelly Pender (51:25.001)
I love it, yes, it's perfect.
Sarita Buer (51:37.508)
manifestation course and then also mastermind find out more. can message her on IG. But again, Kelly is amazing having my first manifestation coach on this program. That's like so exciting to me that we could like talk about these things. I'm almost feeling like there should be a part two because we could just go so much deeper into like the quantum field and the quantum, you know, jumping and timeline, like hopping. Like it just, yeah, there's so much out there that we can.
Kelly Pender (51:47.634)
Yay!
Kelly Pender (51:56.081)
Yes.
Sarita Buer (52:03.73)
We barely scratched the surface in what, 45 minutes? 50 minutes. So awesome. Love it, love it.
Kelly Pender (52:08.839)
Yes. Yes. I think we're going to have to have a part two. Thank you so much for having me. I'm honored to be your first manifestation coach. This was really fun.
Sarita Buer (52:17.453)
Yes, yes it was so much fun and thank you everybody. Thank you so much. We've got just a couple episodes until the end of the year. Stick with me and I can't wait to see you next time and as always keep being the amazing you that you are. Take care.
